Mechanic's Assistant: Where exactly do you think the noise is coming from? And how long has this been going on? I have had the vehicle for 2 years. so it's not too big of a deal. After one year or so I started hearing a weird knocking noise coming from the engine when the outside temperature would go down below 15 celsius (59 fahr. I've had a listen to ancillaries with a stethoscope but can't. The noise is coming from oil starvation. 5l engine and when i start it up in the mornings i get this ticking/small knocking noise from the engine but it goes away when it gets to normal operating temperature. Within the first 3 months the A. Curious what others might think also? My guess is the power steering pump? My issue has not been related to only cold temperature though. Now that its getting colder here in NYC, the noise is worse & louder. Cold start engine noise (with video) DISCLAIMER: fordownersclub. Vehicle: Toyota Tacoma TRD 4x4 sport manual transmission. That being said, 50F is not what I am calling cold but the noise I hear is a normal noise to me and I wouldn't stress over it. 0L ENGINE BELT SQUEAL OR CHIRP NOISE ONTSB 09-7-7 COLD STARTUP FORD: MERCURY: 2009 Mustang 2007-2008 Mountaineer 2007-2008 Explorer Sport Trac, Explorer ISSUE Some 2007-2008 Explorer, Explorer Sport Trac, Mountaineer and 2009 Mustang vehicles equipped with a 4. At cold start-up, the engine rattles loudly for about two seconds. 2009 - 2014 Ford F150 - Cold start rattling noise. at approximately 6100 miles noted engine ticking noise only on cold start up. 7 engines that have a tapping noise for a few minutes when first started up could have one of several problems. Recheck (very carefully) the cold setting of the choke. 2005-01-2455. The explanation from Infiniti is the oil is not pumping into the area with the timing chain guides/tensioners fast enough on a start, hence the brief noise on a cold start and not any other time. Are we all talking about the same noise, as can be heard in the sound file attached to the first post, and not the little tick-tick-noise, most engines do on start up?. It would be seemingly harmless to use 5 -20 instead of 0 -20 but it can cause an engine noise when the car is cold. Bulletin Description: This bulletin announces the availability of revised valve train components developed to reduce a tapping sound (sometimes described as "a sewing machine type" sound) which may be heard coming from the left-hand (B2) side of the engine when the engine is warm. While I park underground in a heated garage, my car is outside in the elements during the day. It's still coming from around the alternator. Once oil pressure comes up its gone and it won't do it again. Car troubleshooting If you are using heavy single oil, then the problem is too thick engine oil. Supply and manufacture: Recovery gear, Custom 4x4 installations and manufacturing, 4x4 equipment. 5 dci which when cold take a while to start, but when it starts it makes a loud tapping noise until warm then goes better but not completely. Yeah, i have the 5. #5 · Oct 11, 2017. 0L engine from time-to-time for about a year now. Doesn't sound any different to mine on a cold start. I believe this problem is common in 2009/2010 matrix and corolla. Mechanic's Assistant: Are you fixing your Sorento yourself? What have you tried so far? Nothing. It has gotten worse over time, and two local dealers have said they cant duplicate the issue. Car has had oil changes every 3,000-5,000 miles with. In some cases the noise may be a normal characteristic of these. 6L, no cold start rattle or anything, oil pressure is instant. Marvel is 4. Joined Feb 19, 2016 · 22 Posts. My 2003 Corolla makes a noise. If I let idle for a minute and put it in drive it gets louder but then goes away. rcdoc_2018 Florida Member Posts: 3. When I first start my Astra from cold there is a rattle/knock type sound which only lasts a second or two. When i used 50w it was noisy on cold starts for a few secs. I just recently purchased a certified pre-owned 2014 Traverse. It sound a bit like a pulsing vacuum cleaner. also mine is less in duration (that noise) than yours. Note: In extreme cases the sound might always be there depending on how bad the tensioners are. A bad serpentine belt can cause a loud squeaking noise. Some or all of this information was provided by the Automotive. Only seems to do it while in gear (perhaps because it causes more vibrations from the engine?) Here is a recording of the noise. Videos of noise before and after below. You can have it repaired under a TSB, but unless it lasts longer than that, I wouldn't bother. Possible causes I found whilst trawling the web: cam chain tensioners which are oil pressured or blocked oil feeds to the said tensioners. I have a 2005 GTP with 69000 miles that developed a knocking noise when weather turned cold. Discussion Starter · #1 · Jul. #2 • May 18, 2011. During those few seconds you'll hear a rattle or clicking sound. It would be good to know that it is just a "quirk" of the engine rather than anything untoward. Honda only says it's working on the problem but doesn't have a fix yet. Probably normal diesel clatter. Hello All, When the engine is started from cold there seems to be a constant noise coming near the Cambelt, Water pump area. I just purchased a used 2010 Corolla 3 days ago. Joined 6 mo ago · 7 Posts. As indicated, the car is using a heavy, single weight engine oil. Some light noise is normal. To test for VCT noise: If the noise intensity is more than a lightly audible knock at hot idle under 1200. there are no signals displayed of any issues on computer. I would like to have this fixed! #4 Devon says: April 6th, 2015 at 7:33 pm. The dealership told me they didnt hear anything but they are full of shit. Doesn't appear upon warm start. 33L Yaris has started to make a noise when starting from cold (see video attached). Engine noise on cold start. Engine has grinding noise for 2-3 seconds on daily initial startup and when engine is cold after sitting several hours. Upon cold start engine makes rattle noise. (2) Weak battery. Joined Oct 3, 2006 · 563 Posts. 0 cdti noisy engine starting cold, diesel rattle on new insignia, vauxhall. Recently purchased a 2003 VW Passat GLX 4 Motion for my teen driver. If it sounds like the above, it's a cam gear rattle that has been relatively common with Toyota VVTi systems on the 2. 2018 F150 5. Cold start engine noise (with video) DISCLAIMER: fordownersclub. This is due to the design features of cylinder-piston group. after 15 min of driving. When starting the car when its cold I can hear a ticking noise coming from the engine area. 7 cars tend to be noisy for about 10-15 seconds on cold start ups too. Verify condition by observing engine sound during cold start. We all dread the clicking noise of a dead engine on a frigid December morning. A day or so ago, I noticed a rattle coming from the engine bay at around 2000rpm. I will film it today and try to post a clip. engine noise at cold start. Its only done 79000 on an 05 plate with full service history. 0 engine knock at a cold start such as in the morning or if the car has sat for at least 8 hours. Varies from mild to loud metallic rattling. I'm sure it isn't a big deal like you said, it's probably just noise from cold components running after a long sit. Some noise is expected as pump attempts to pull cold, thick fluid. Nevertheless, its at the dealer and they confirmed the noise. You can hear it on this link. 1,382 Posts. 8 is quiet other than the injectors. If I put the car in D or R during this high idle then I hear a loud Roaring/vacuum type of sound. As indicated, the car is using a heavy, single weight engine oil. Noise on Cold Start (Video included) Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 15 of 15 Posts. When I do start it, the engine has a rattling noise for 1-2 seconds but always goes away immediately. 6-liter, Endurance® V8 gas engine. Race the engine gently with the car in Neutral and listen carefully for any signs of the offensive noise that are associated with the engine speed. 0 ltr) Step-Auto in Sapphire Black. Noise typical when cold and applying load for the first mile or so. I had the exact problem with a Mazda. When I say cold, I generally mean just below 0 to -10 C (32 to 14F). mercedessource Tech help - Diesel Purge can help you isolate the noise Internal engine noises can be very difficult to diagnose. Loud Engine Knock at Cold. It does start to shake/tremble a little when noise is present. During cold weather my engine makes this loud rattle noise for the first couple of minutes, and drops the idle as if to cut off, then it goes away. Lasts about 30 seconds, doesn't get louder when you rev the engine but does get louder when you drive the car. Even the newest lineup is labeled as "now even more refined," but research shows that this model is struggling to maintain reliability and structural integrity. At first, it only happened some of the time, only lasting about 5 seconds and was quieter, but now it happens 95-99% of the time and it is much louder and lasts. Driven 5000 km so far. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. Car has brand new exhaust, new heat sheild. 0L 6 cylinder engine. The oil that is called for for 2017 is 0w-20. Engine Knocking - Pinging - Rattling Noise - Common Causes Are you hearing an annoying, engine knocking, pinging or rattling noise, when you accelerate your engine. by | Jun 10, 2021 | news | 0 comments. I have a CAI and a catback, it idles loud when cold. Read in another forum this could be due to the engine mounts / incorrect signals being sent to the ECU. Sorry I meant I will not be able to plug in an Engine block heater, not the EV part of the car. The VVT internal component could rattle when the lock-pin, which latches to the VVT housing and secures the internal components to maintain the camshaft in the most delayed position, unlatches at cold-start. When I start the engine from cold all smooth and fine, then after 5-10 seconds a loud whirring with vibration sound engages, like someone is drilling inside the engine bay. Then it goes away after about 5 miles. these engines are loud on cold start (all nissan 4 cylinders are)get used to it, your dealer probably replaced your motor so you shut upI'll bet you get the same noise outta your new engine soontry synthetic if the noise bothers you, but there is nothing wrong with your engine, all engines will make more noise as they get older and broken in. The new engines include the 4. I have the 4. Then went away after a while. I have a 5th Gen with the 5. 5 engine that did the same. Rattles for only a few minutes until it reaches the operating temperature. I want to know where the noise is coming from so here is the link of a soundclip attached. Sometimes, all cranking I wish to do will not restart it. Car shakes noticeably on cold start every morning with hesitation in engine revs. I bought a brand new 2016 Crosstrek in September and it makes the exact same noise under the same conditions as OP. That one is only here after a cold start and quickly fades away as soon as I start driving. In addition to the noise, I can also feel a slight jerk. (2) Weak battery. In the owners manual, it warns against shifting into gear or moving the bike right after the engine is started, once the oil gets a little warm and gets flowing, the noise is stifled. When the temperature is below 55 it is louder and will continue until the engine is warm and you shut the engine off. However, there's one thing that has been stressing me out. Once warmed up the 2. We all dread the clicking noise of a dead engine on a frigid December morning. Suffice it to say, most causes of noise that come on during initial engine starts and diminish or disappears after a while are usually the effects of heat or. 1L Engine (VIN J - RPO LG8) Condition Some customers may comment on a ticking noise (similar, but not related to valve or lifter noise) that occurs 10-15 seconds after a cold engine start. Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Fouad, Jul 20, 2020. Always the same noise, same frequency, same pattern. Kingdom934 said: My '85 Camry used to had like this 'tap' noise on the top end of the engine. It sounds like a rock being knocked against a hard surface. For a few months I have been getting this noise when I cold start the car in the morning. I have 165k miles now and been using supergas only my enginr runs like dream i have the cold start engine noise since day one one time shop changed the oil to 10 30w then i realize engine is ruff lost hp and ticking takes forever i changed it back to 0 40 w and engine still runs great soo its about what kind of oil u use also what type. Car has brand new exhaust, new heat sheild. I purchased this Jeep used in August of 2018 with 19. After being around a few 5. Also, check to see if the sound happens only when you start the vehicle from a cold temperature, or if it happens on a warm start as well. hlrose52 · Registered. Engine noise at cold start. after 4 hours cold soak it may or may not make noise, if so 1/2 - 1 sec. It's a distinct knock that varies with engine speed, goes away after about 5-10 minutes of warm-up. My Honda VTR1000 had a similar noise on cold startups. My car has been making a loud noise (hi rev) during cold start. This is programmed into the. The second is a deep heavy growl. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 6 of 6 Posts. #2 • Oct 15, 2018. Joined Sep 17, 2007. jaskyland said: I have no mods on my 2007 GT, but I hear the same thing when I first start mine, it sounds to me like the lifters tapping and/or the engine knocking until it warms up. Sometimes, all cranking I wish to do will not restart it. Pulsating air vent. I've only noticed it when it somewhere below 20F after the truck as cooled down for several hrs. HI Everyone:This video is to verify a engine rattle sound when you start it up cold. 7 V6 (sold). If the garage is cold, say below 65F, the engine will start automatically. I noticed a knocking coming from the engine (closer to bottom of engine than top) on a cold start. It has 17K on it. All Models with the M54 engine Complaint. The noise cannot be heard from the outside of the vehicle. Discussion Starter · #1 · Oct 5. Confirm that the noise is gone and that the system is operating properly. Rincon engine noise. I just pulled the IMS bearing (not because of the noise) and ordered three tensioners from Wayne this evening. Discussion Starter · #1 · Aug 26, 2018. Cold start engine noise. Location: Northern NJ. ( The old spark plugs in cylinder 1 & 2 were black and gunked up pretty bad also the coils were dirty) Now just recently, within the last month, the car will occasionly make a grinding sound on cold start up. morning starts after sitting all night, once. I can't tell whether the noise is from the engine bay or not. Only when I drive away for a few minutes does it stop completely. It takes maybe 30-40 sec before it starts. I don't now what to believe or todo with it. The noise is not continuous and goes away after "5 or 6. Listened to your noise and it sounds exactly like the sound I get when I start my 2000 S cold. Remove the timing chain cover plate. Engine ticking noise caused by Gasoline Direct Injection components. 0L engine from time-to-time for about a year now. The dealership told me they didnt hear anything but they are full of shit. Curious what others might think also? My guess is the power steering pump? My issue has not been related to only cold temperature though. The club is not part of Toyota nor affiliated with or endorsed by Toyota in any way. Ive got an 02 chev 2500hd with 129k on the clock. It only last for a few seconds. Engine was cold at the time. Oil Mobil 1 5W-20 with Toyota filter Fuel pump has been physical inspected and confirm to be OK. The mechanical lifters are a different story and hr's do that too. Jetta03 · Registered. Whenever I start up my 2007 Toyota Tundra in the cold there is a kind of knocking in the engine. every morning this week when i go to crank it up i have noticed a strange ticking noise. Got the guy in the truck no more noise. Speedway121 · Registered. That being said, 50F is not what I am calling cold but the noise I hear is a normal noise to me and I wouldn't stress over it. Engine noise on cold start. I can only hear the knocking if I am outside of the car, if I am in the car I can't hear it at all. The piston slap noise is not the only noise coming from the engine at cold start. I bought this rouge new with 4 miles on it after owning it for 2 months the engine has developed a Cold Start Engine Rattle/knock on the passenger side. ML350_ZED said: There is a strange sound coming under the hood on cold start - below the freezing point. The noise is not continuous and goes away after "5 or 6. #7 · Aug 4, 2019. Lately with the cold weather here in Chicago it is even more noticeable and as engine warms it. The noise comes from the driverside engine compartment. It seems to be coming from under the dash or under the car in the front. Re: Cold Start Engine 'rattle' (1. Race the engine gently with the car in Neutral and listen carefully for any signs of the offensive noise that are associated with the engine speed. After the engine warms up I don't hear it for the rest of the day. 5 V6 with a loud Clicking noise on start up when cold and after sitting For an hour. I ran analysis on that oil and it was badly diluted with fuel. Check which criteria have to be met in order to create the sound. 2009 BMW E87 116i Sport (2. Location: York,PA. This engine noise is indeed a mystery. It has gotten worse over time, and two local dealers have said they cant duplicate the issue. #5 • Jun 27, 2009. It is like a rattling/chattering noise that comes from the engine. My reasoning behind this is that the noise is more intense on cold start (when the engine vibrates the most), and ALMOST goes away after the engine is warmed up. Hi I have an whining noise when I start my 1998 Ford F150 in the cold. In some cases the noise may be a normal characteristic of these. It could also just be a vacuum line. As indicated, the car is using a heavy, single weight engine oil. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. I'm loving the car and the extras that came with it. 0L 6 cylinder engine. I just recently purchased a certified pre-owned 2014 Traverse. I just picked up a 96' ZJ for a project. Does anybody else have. did this a couple of times. I've only noticed it when it somewhere below 20F after the truck as cooled down for several hrs. If the problem is technical, due to the engine being too cold, bear in mind that the engine should stop making noise after you have ridden it for a while and it has warmed up. In some cases the noise may be a normal characteristic of these engines. I thought this was just common subaru flat 4 engine cold start valve noise. Relax with the Volkswagen Fusca of Camila, engine sound of this purring along so you. It's still coming from around the alternator. (2) Weak battery. There is actually two different noises. I'm not looking for trouble to fix it, my oil pressure is good and change MobileOne as required. The clicking noise only appears if you set off straight away on a cold start - if you leave it 10 minutes or so in this weather to de-ice then there is no clicking noise when we setting off. this morning when. When the car is first started from stone cold, the engine appears to make a random knocking / tapping sound which is difficult to locate. I’ve just noticed it does it just before it does a DPF regen also. Had this in quite a few cars over the years, and quite surprisingly in a Toyota Tundra V-8 after only 17,000 miles. Read in another forum this could be due to the engine mounts / incorrect signals being sent to the ECU. The noise would eventually go away when the engine warmed up. The second is a deep heavy growl. Purchased a low mileage 2014 CR-V, and when the weather got cold, started noticing a 2 second rattle from the engine at start-up. Annoyingly it doesn't happen all the time so I have video'd the noise on several occasions ready for playback to the dealership for when it goes in. ^During cold start-up: most often at the 1,600-1,800 rpm range, or in some instances (elongated timing chain) from. I also filled up 93 OCT gas vs the 87. My 2009 Matrix started making noise in cold days at start up. The second is a deep heavy growl. I thought this was just common subaru flat 4 engine cold start valve noise. After driving a while where the engine warms up (probably about 4 minutes depending on how cold it is outside), it slowly gets back to the normal ticking noise level. Sounds to me like a rod knock. However the noise I am getting when it is cold, seems to be more pronounced than what others are getting. Ok I have a 2015 R/T 5. 1996 BMW 328i. So far what I tried: 1/ Changed engine oil with dino Pennzoil 5w-20, keep factory install oil filter: still rattle. This is the noise. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 5 of 5 Posts. The car runs fine, there is no engine stalling or loss of power. so it's not too big of a deal. They had the car for a week. When I do start it, the engine has a rattling noise for 1-2 seconds but always goes away immediately. it had to do with the intake manifold. I alwys use 0W-30 100% synthetic in all me vehciles, the CTS4 and the Denali. Ambient temperature in my country is between 27-35°c. My car has an automatic transmission. It's a metal on metal sound, like a grinding noise, or to me sounds like the timing chain is hitting the valve cover. Figure 1 - Article 12-1-17 SERVICE PROCEDURE NOTE 1. It does start to shake/tremble a little when noise is present. 2009 - 2014 Ford F150 - Cold start rattling noise. Cold start squeaking noise in engine. Hello, I am an owner of a 2017 Nissan Titan Pro4X 1/2 ton with the 5. Aug 07, 2017 · 2010 Toyota Prius. 2000 Silverado 1500, 4. Once the car warms up and's driven for a while (after about 15-20 mins of driving), the noise is gone. Of course I never really noticed any noise in the warmer weather. it sounds like like a diesel engine. The noise goes away after 20min or so when the engine is fully warmed. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. They didn't hear the noise on start up (the car was warm already), but their initial guess was that low oil level in the heads was causing a little rattle up top - similar to the other rattle described elsewhere. I have a loud noise that lasts maybe 5-10secs every once in awhile. Joined Aug 15, 2016 Messages 1,127 Reaction score 945 Location Tennessee Car(s) 2020 CW CTR - 2020 Acura RDX A-Spec Jan 7, 2018. So the engine will be cold at MINUA 22F/25C, yes but do you live in an extreme cold climate? I read that the EV needs to reach a certain temperature to start in extreme cold and it requires warming up from the gas engine in the cold. I took it to a local dealership. GDI injectors are mounted so they inject gas directly into the cylinder instead of in the intake manifold. the belt tensioner PULLEY was replaced. Engine is hot now and it only happens when cold. He said the sound was normal and. It can change sound a little bit with different oil viscosities when cold. but 9 times out of 10 on a cold engine, i get this noise it is still doing it on cold start, but it hasn't got any. sonata2006 December 29, 2017, 12:06pm #1. Cold start noise. After it starts up and I do some driving its like normal and the start ups are Ok, for instance if I go to the store, when I start up, its Ok no noise. Particularly noisy in cold temps. Many posts about the timing chain tensioner but its my belief that a faulty tensioner would make noise whether the engine is cold or hot, when in park or in gear, no difference. Table of Contents Seats and Restraint Systems Section 1 Seats and Seat Controls Safety Belts Air Bag Systems Restraint Systems for Children Features and Controls Section 2 ii Windows Keys and Door Locks Keyless Entry System Liftgate Automatic Transmission Operation All-Wheel Drive Parking Brake Tilt Wheel. Noticed a bit of a chaffing sound at start on cold days more recently -- not sure if it's getting worse or if it's just the cold. 8,537 Posts. Some Ford vehicles equipped with a 4. If I turn it off to restart immediately (to hear the noise) it wont happen, but leave it about 30mins and it will. jaskyland said: I have no mods on my 2007 GT, but I hear the same thing when I first start mine, it sounds to me like the lifters tapping and/or the engine knocking until it warms up. 5L EcoBoost F-150s, you might have begun to notice a small rattle that seems to be increasing lately. When I do start it, the engine has a rattling noise for 1-2 seconds but always goes away immediately. While the engine is one of the best Ford has ever engineered, based on warranty repair numbers, it does require care and proper maintenance, like all engines. The fact is that the noise disappears after warming up the internal combustion engine. When engine is cold it makes a rattling noise when you put it into gear and tap the gas, or even just into gear. by | Jun 10, 2021 | news | 0 comments. I would be cold starting the engine with the hood up and pinning down a component or area as soon as possible. How to fix the rattling noise when engine is cold especially at the first start in the morning and that stays there for a few minutes until engine is warm. Cold Start Knock To some degree, cold start knock (piston slap) is a normal characteristic on 4-stroke gasoline engines. I've been told by a few people who have listened to it, that it's "probably. Cause The noise may be caused by excessive piston. Sharp pressure rise rings the metal. Wondering does it just occur on the 1. Also there is an air injection pump that only runs on first cold start, for 10-30 seconds, but that is usually a "squeal" or "Vacuum cleaner" noise. Lasts just a moment or two followed by a bit of rough idle for 30 seconds (give or take), then normal idle. The new engines include the 4. I have noticed that when i start the car in the morning a strange grinding sort of noise is emitted from the engine bay. I want to know where the noise is coming from so here is the link of a soundclip attached. However the noise I am getting when it is cold, seems to be more pronounced than what others are getting. Posted to Ford Engine on 7/26/2013 14 Replies. Under certain circumstances, its considered either normal or acceptable, under other circumstances, it’s considered a severe warning sign. 7L automatic which now has 70K highway miles on it. Having said this, I have to confirm that our engines do indeed have hydraulic lifters - maybe someone can quickly verify - and if we do I'm quite convinced this is the root cause of the problem. 0L ENGINE BELT SQUEAL OR CHIRP NOISE ONTSB 09-7-7 COLD STARTUP FORD: MERCURY: 2009 Mustang 2007-2008 Mountaineer 2007-2008 Explorer Sport Trac, Explorer ISSUE Some 2007-2008 Explorer, Explorer Sport Trac, Mountaineer and 2009 Mustang vehicles equipped with a 4. They're just making more noise than stock components. 8 L up, it clicks and ticks from the engine. ENGINE NOISE RATTLE ON COLD START. 6 gasoline engine). Over winter, I noticed a ticking noise in the engine on the first cold start of the day but would go away after 2-3 minutes. Low oil pressure. Mine has a ticking noise, sounds like a lifter for about 10 seconds when I start the car on a cold morning. If noise is excessive, look for poor sealing on the return hose or a possible fluid leak. If you determine the engine oil is more than one quart low, the oil viscosity is wrong, or the oil is in poor condition change the oil and filter. Rod or wrist pin noise is not very noticeable cold but gets MUCH worse hot as the oil thins out. #11 · Mar 3, 2008. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 12 of 12 Posts. I tried a new belt. When I cold start the 3. I had the head redone beginning of the year so the belt is still pretty new. Jump to Latest Follow 41 - 45 of 45 Posts Crossfire my dad has, that is a ticking engine, on its second engine in 44 k miles and this one ticks now too. GDI injectors are mounted so they inject gas directly into the cylinder instead of in the intake manifold. Bored scoped engine cylinder‘s 1,3,5,and 7. 6 gasoline engine). Thus if you start it up at 8, the car will think it's 10 already. Alloytecs are not known for noisey cam followers, but the common cold start noise relates to the oil pressure needed to pump up the timing chain tensioners. I can't tell whether the noise is from the engine bay or not. An engine will often sound noisy on start-up because components aren’t under load, the engine is cold and the oil hasn’t warmed up and started circulating freely. Power steering pump noise is a unique noise that your car may make and once you’ve heard it you always know what it is. 5 and less so on the 1. To ensure an efficient camshaftadjustment right after an engine cold start, the oil pressure inside the camshaftadjusters must be built up as fast as possible. Chevy replaced the compressor, and the noise for the most part went away, however. Jump to Latest Follow 1 - 8 of 8 Posts. ( The old spark plugs in cylinder 1 & 2 were black and gunked up pretty bad also the coils were dirty) Now just recently, within the last month, the car will occasionly make a grinding sound on cold start up. 1996 BMW 328i. Happens at every cold start. The cam phaser ,{which is an oil filled sprocket which drives the camshaft & provides the variable cam timeing for better power & gas mileage},seems to drain empty overnight. I think its normal. When you start the car you hear the play in the assembly until the tensioner gets pumped back up by oil pressure. There are a lot of videos on YouTube that show this, but you have to search for phrases like "J35 timing belt noise" or "honda v6 timing belt noise". I have done 2 oil changes, used 0w20 but did help a bit not much with the noise. The most common cause is the variable valve timing camshaft gear assembly leaking down oil pressure as it sits. When the truck is warm it doesn't seem to happen. Hey forum peeps, So my 2017 Colorado, as well as my 2017 Canyon, both with the 3. Swapped bank 1 and bank 2 VVTI solenoids, cooled off vehicle noise was still present at cold start. ? here is the sound of my MDX 2010 acura mdx bad sound cold. I made a video when I start the engine in the morning. The car has been a model of reliability since i bought it new 5 years ago. This brief (approximately 1 second) loud rattle noise (sounds like jerking a chain quickly out of a plastic milk jug) has happened with my 2004 V6 3. It's got power steering fluid etc and drives perfectly fine. Top two: Alternator belt, which is faced with rotating the alternator at maximum output. Now, it is not the noise that is heard on the thread with the video below mine. The pump lives near your left knee when you are looking into the engine bay. As you might notice in the video, it does not only do it for 1-3 seconds on start up but continues to go on. Posted to Ford Engine on 7/26/2013 14 Replies. E87 120i N46 engine noise at cold start. Through research, I've found that this problem affects all recent model 2. 2018 F150 5. 5k miles on it. Lifter noise on cold start. It's a 2011 Sorento v6 engine. Bulletin Description: This bulletin announces the availability of revised valve train components developed to reduce a tapping sound (sometimes described as "a sewing machine type" sound) which may be heard coming from the left-hand (B2) side of the engine when the engine is warm. They will replace if under warranty. BMW X5 E70 Xdrive 2011 Cold Start engine noise. Well, it now has 122K miles on it and the noise is even louder. Suffice it to say, most causes of noise that come on during initial engine starts and diminish or disappears after a while are usually the effects of heat or. went for a drive then let the car sit for a good few hours and seems to be no noise at all on start. 0 engine noise. It's hard to describe, but it sounds most like a rattling/trapping/gruff. Joined Aug 23, 2010 · 6 Posts. erikmoeser · Registered. They say most engine wear occurs on startup when all of the oil is sitting in the pan. Power steering pump noise is a unique noise that your car may make and once you’ve heard it you always know what it is. #13 · Jan 11, 2008. Mopar1 · Registered. Cold start engine noise (with video) DISCLAIMER: fordownersclub. 5 petrol EX has an engine rattle on start up from when the engine is cold. melodee3 · Registered. They had the car for a week. ford explorer rough idle when cold. 5k miles on it. engine noise in morning and after work, sounds like you just changed oil and have a dry filter! i dont like it , is there anything i can do to help this noise? it is only for approx. 2007 Ford Expedition 5. 0 T-GDI for the last two years, start up can be a little bit rattly, it is a 3 cylinder engine and as such is naturally “unbalanced” some mornings it can sound worse especially when cold but it only lasts for 1 to 2 seconds, anything longer and I would get it checked out or if you are experiencing any harsh metallic grinding noises I would be more concerned. This noise may be caused by an interaction between carbon that has formed on the piston, the piston motion and the cylinder wall. Engine noise on cold start. It burns a good amount of oil and when i start it up cold theres some ticking and clanking coming from the top end it gos away in about 10-15 seconds. These drivers report a loud metal on metal sound when they first start their engines, and is often described as a metallic grinding. 4-liter is prone to three different types of abnormal engine noise. Or once I start driving away after about 5 seconds the noise goes away. Oil level is fine but it sounds like a sticking lifter. Engine Knocking - Pinging - Rattling Noise - Common Causes Are you hearing an annoying, engine knocking, pinging or rattling noise, when you accelerate your engine. If the problem is technical, due to the engine being too cold, bear in mind that the engine should stop making noise after you have ridden it for a while and it has warmed up. They have supplied an i30 fastback with the same engine as a loan vehicle and like others had said this 1. - 2011 Ford Ecoboost 65k miles, all stock. Loud Engine Knock at Cold. Just noise from delayed ignition when cold. If not too much it will go away as parts warm up and expand reducing clearance. Simmilar cold start issue My 330ci on cold start sounds like a jet engine firing up. As stated above the car currently has 170k miles on it. This is within a span of less then 30 seconds. This type of oil tends to become very thick in cold temperatures. Dear Tim: It is not unusual to hear some engine when first starting on a cold start. This video details an unusual cold start noise that can sometimes sound like a timing chain slap on 2015-current Ford F-150's. electronic sensor or something is warming up and then shuts off. Always the same noise, same frequency, same pattern. 0L Power Stroke Diesel - Cold Start Rattle - Preignition? - 2006 PS 6. HI Everyone:This video is to verify a engine rattle sound when you start it up cold. You can have it repaired under a TSB, but unless it lasts longer than that, I wouldn't bother. When starting the engine in cold temperatures, an abnormal metal grinding noise emitted from the vehicle. the neighbor has another rincon maybe ill. started the engine runs fine and is quite. To test for VCT noise: If the noise intensity is more than a lightly audible knock at hot idle under 1200. Took it back to the dealer and left it overnight and they checked it and told me it was normal and they all do that. I recently purchased a 2016 Ecoboost. Upon start up it will only be in V8. Then once I apply gas and it runs the engine up the noise goes away. 7's I've noticed two engine issues that are relatively common. Some of these common causes could cause engine ticking. Top off the power steering fluid, if needed. 2007 VUE 3. - The rattle is only a cold start rattle - goes once the car is up to operating temp. After an inspection carried by dealer, they said that's problem with the Intake Timing Variator, parts will cost about US$2,000 (HK$16,000), but labor cost is about 4 times of it. 9 viscosity and is a very high detergent for cleaning internal engine componet's and is. 6 2009 knocking noise. My 2003 Corolla makes a noise. With a few exceptions, a noise that occurs when the car is. Noise sounds metallic similar to a timing chain rattle or something waiting for oil pressure and lasts for upto 5 seconds on some start-ups. It's still coming from around the alternator. Lasts about 30 seconds, doesn't get louder when you rev the engine but does get louder when you drive the car. Active 5 years, 6 months ago. 6 engine black top edition charger. 7D S-Type developed some ticking noise when starting from cold (you can hear it in the attached video). During cold weather my engine makes this loud rattle noise for the first couple of minutes, and drops the idle as if to cut off, then it goes away. I just did a full rebuild on the engine, so she is like new, including new glow plugs (I won't go into all the details unless requested but yes I used the short push rods). Engine light came on, i got code PO30100 & B111216 so i decided to replace the spark plugs. The dealer just told me that they listened to my engine, heard the sound, started some other Patriots on their lot and they had the same sound, so. accelerating from full stop. As indicated, the car is using a heavy, single weight engine oil. The air injection noise is normal on cold start but when combined with the other noises it can sound like a big deal. The best way to describe it is a rattle or knocking noise. The piston slap noise is not the only noise coming from the engine at cold start. com is an independent Ford forum for owners of Ford vehicles. Joined Aug 23, 2010 · 6 Posts. In fact, it can become so thick that the engine has trouble cranking which creates car starting problems when you try to start the car because of the extreme friction caused by such thick oil. It sounds like it needs some time to build enough oil pressure. Newer GDI engines have a totally different style of fuel injector and these fuel injectors make an engine ticking noise especially on cold start up. However for peace of mind a few months ago i had the. Been to the dealer several times and they have tighten and move the heat shields around and it did not fix the problem. This was a cold start after the vehicle had been garaged for 13-hours. This type of oil tends to become very thick in cold temperatures. Sorry for the poor description I just got out of an 04 F250 6. 2017 Alfa Romeo Giulia Quadrifoglio. When you have a squealing noise on start up, that goes away after a few minutes, is normally a belt issue. It comes whenever I increase the load on the engine. On cold starts only, I'm getting a 1/2 second or so of aggressive valve lifter noise. Discussion Starter · #1 · Jul. Recently, however, the engine doesn't start immediately but dies after the first turn of the key. My CRV-2014 LX-AWD bought in Nov-2013, right now it has 2000 km (1200 miles) has the cold start rattle like yours. Lifters were replaced prior to our purchase about 9 months ago, and this week my dealer replaced the camshaft & lifters noted camshaft damage. When I first start my 99' 3. Asked by Robert51 in Charlotte, NC on September 13, 2017. Reasons for car struggling to start when cold (1) Use of heavy single weight engine oil. I warm up the car for about a minute to two (the rpm is at about 1200 at that. sounds like oil drainback, i have wix filter with anti-dbv. Be sure to see the related articles linked below for a different common issues that some 4. Mine has a ticking noise, sounds like a lifter for about 10 seconds when I start the car on a cold morning. This sounds more logical to me since on a warm start the engine timing is probably different from a cold start and maybe just that adjustment needs oil pressure in the system. After it has been sitting for 3 to 4 hours or more, when i go to start it i get bad lifter noise for a few seconds until the oil pressure comes up. Seemed like lifter noise but very loud. It only last for a few seconds. Doesn't happen all the time, have had it in a garage local to me who said they couldn't hear anything. At the same time, the engine is slightly bouncing, as though it wants to jump out of the hood. Discussion Starter · #1 · Oct 5. Hi guys, On my task of fixing all my cars niggling problems brings me to the cold start up noise. Cold Start Engine Rattle/knock 2018 rogue with 7000 miles. Fix engine ticking noise Start by inspecting oil level and oil condition. Varies from mild to loud metallic rattling. Weird Noise On Cold Start Up Weird Noise On Cold Start Up. #14 · Nov 12, 2014. Cold start engine noise. FEAD IDLER PULLEY NOISE MAY BE MOST And Install Serpentine Belt APPARENT AT OR NEAR COLD ENGINE IDLE (Do Not Use With 8678A, SPEEDS (APPROXIMATELY 1200 RPM). I would like to have this fixed! #4 Devon says: April 6th, 2015 at 7:33 pm. At first I thought it may be a tensioner problem, but this seems unlikely. This topic contains 6 replies, has 6 voices, and was last updated by edward 2 years, 3 months ago. Loud metalic squealing sound for about 30 to 45 seconds then smooths out and dissipates ? Seems to come from passenger side of engine compartment. The noise goes away after 20min or so when the engine is fully warmed. I have no idea what is is but I know it is coming from the engine compartment. This can be caused by a faulty valve timing control actuator. the knock also sounded like it was coming from the heads so this went on like this until a few weeks ago. My '05 C230K does this as well. 2014 - 2019 Silverado & Sierra. Started loud noise this morning at a cold start. Start car up cold, and unplug the electrical connector, squeeze tab and pull it up. If it sounds like the above, it's a cam gear rattle that has been relatively common with Toyota VVTi systems on the 2. In my opinion, this is a horrendous noise that should not be heard on a vehicle in this price point. Warm starts are fine and engine runs great. Still no Batt light on the dash, so it's still functional. This noise may be caused by an interaction between carbon that has formed on the piston, the piston motion and the cylinder wall. Is this normal?. If engine is cold and weather is cold, it's supposed to run for 30-60 seconds, pumping air into the exhaust manifold to help burn off extra fuel and heat up the cats. 4L 3-valve engine may exhibit a ticking and/or knocking noise after reaching normal operating temperature, or a rattle upon starting. Stock exhaust manifold, cats, hpipe. Find and download user guides and product manuals. Parts of the air/fuel mixture can start to ignite too early. 7D S-Type developed some ticking noise when starting from cold (you can hear it in the attached video). Speedway121 · Registered. This topic contains 6 replies, has 6 voices, and was last updated by edward 2 years, 3 months ago. Replacing the failed actuator will commonly correct this noise issue. If the rattling noise comes from the area of the timing chains (back of the engine) for 1-3 seconds after the first start of the day, replace both upper chain tensioners of bank 1 and bank 2 with the optimized chain tensioners. BMW X5 E70 Xdrive 2011 Cold Start engine noise. Cold Start Knocking Noise GTP. As we understand the problem, as the 3. I will film it today and try to post a clip. The noise may also be described as ticks, taps, knocks or thumps. I had the exact problem with a Mazda. On startup when cold, the engine makes what I believe to be some excessive noise. com Our Baby Girl Channe. For a few months I have been getting this noise when I cold start the car in the morning. 7 in all aspects. Cold start engine noise. A tip to rectify this issue is to use cold oil at start-up to help pump up the lifters. Reasons for car struggling to start when cold (1) Use of heavy single weight engine oil. 2018 F150 5. If you search You Tube, for "2012 Honda CRV, Cold start noise" you will hear exactly what noise I'm referring to. I bought a brand new 2016 Crosstrek in September and it makes the exact same noise under the same conditions as OP. I have noticed that on a normal cold start up my engine will rev up to 1,500 rpm when it fires up with no abnormal noises. The ticking sound usually starts within 3 minutes after start up during warm up idle. In addition to the noise, I can also feel a slight jerk. The second one thinks about the timing chains but also, nothing to worry about. You could also start the car and go listen around the engine and try and locate where the noise is coming from, that should give you an idea of what to check. 7L automatic which now has 70K highway miles on it. When the engine shuts off, and the oil psi bleeds off, a pin is supposed to spring out, locking the cam phaser in place till the next start. I'm loving the car and the extras that came with it. Engine noise at cold start-up. I had about two years ago Rover 200 with that same 1. HI Everyone:This video is to verify a engine rattle sound when you start it up cold. For a few months now, when I cold start my truck there is a very loud rattling in the engine bay. the neighbor has another rincon maybe ill. Recently I started to notice a loud ticking noise at cold heard it first from the garage when my car was warming up one morning outside for a couple minutes. I did go away once I got my first oil change (dumped FF and put synthetic in). E87 120i N46 engine noise at cold start. Re: Engine knock noise on cold startup. I have a 2011 Dodge Avenger Heat 3. A day or so ago, I noticed a rattle coming from the engine bay at around 2000rpm. Dealer performed engine diagnostic and diagnosed the timing chain issue. Re: Engine cold Start noise Post by 1Monty » Fri Nov 17, 2017 12:32 pm Well, I have had Mazda service on the phone a little while ago and they say they 'think' it's the clutch release bearing but sounded a little vague and will book it in for a replacement in a couple of weeks time once they have had all the various authorisations, but is. 5L 6cyl 8A) 42 of 44 people found this review helpful. This noise will be present until the engine reaches full operating temperature. Engine is hot now and it only happens when cold. It does this only at cold, and does not start immediately as you start the engine. BMW Mini R55 (N14) normal engine idle from cold, showing the difference in suppressed engine acoustics, with the removal/refit of the oil cap. Any ideas? Maintenance/Repairs. If it sounds like the above, it's a cam gear rattle that has been relatively common with Toyota VVTi systems on the 2. Gallery: 2 images. A bad tensioner will usually be accompanied by noise. 2,648 Posts. Link to audio during 20 degree startup, waiting for glow plugs of course. When I first start the "truck", I immediately "hear" the noise as you described. Or once I start driving away after about 5 seconds the noise goes away. Wednesday 2nd January 2019. The belt dressing is messy, glue all over the place. it goes away after the car warms up anyway. #6 · Apr 20, 2016. This vehicle has a very brief rattle noise in engine on cold start up, after overnight cold soak it will last 1-2 sec. Install new oil and filter. Two holden dealerships said it was not a concern and a lot of people here had different theories. No noise on warmed up engine.